Maryanne Trump Barry, a former federal judge and President Trump’s older sister, can be heard on secret recordings offering the most critical comments known to have been made about the president by one of his siblings, according to transcripts obtained by The Washington Post.
“All he wants to do is appeal to his base,” Barry said in a conversation secretly recorded by her niece, Mary L. Trump. “He has no principles. None. None. And his base, I mean my God, if you were a religious person, you want to help people. Not do this.”
The conversation was recorded at a time when children were being separated from their parents by the Trump administration and put in cramped quarters while court hearings dragged on.
“His goddamned tweet and lying, oh my God,” she said. “I’m talking too freely, but you know. The change of stories. The lack of preparation. The lying. Holy shit.”
Lamenting “what they’re doing with kids at the border,” she guessed her brother “hasn’t read my immigration opinions” in court cases. Barry, 83, retired last year from the Philadelphia-based U.S. Court of Appeals for the Third Circuit.
In one case, she berated a judge for failing to treat an asylum applicant respectfully.
“What has he read?” Mary Trump asked her aunt.
“No. He doesn’t read,” Barry responded.
At one point Barry said to her niece, “It’s the phoniness of it all. It’s the phoniness and this cruelty. Donald is cruel.”
Barry did not attend the Friday evening White House funeral for her and the president’s brother, Robert Trump.
The allegation that Trump paid someone to take his SATs stems from a conversation that Barry had with her niece on Nov. 1, 2018.
Barry told how she tried to help her brother get into college.
“He was a brat,” Barry said, explaining that “I did his homework for him” and “I drove him around New York City to try to get him into college.”
“He went to Fordham for one year [actually two years] and then he got into University of Pennsylvania because he had somebody take the exams,” she said.
“No way!” Mary responded. “He had somebody take his entrance exams?”
“SATs or whatever. . . . That’s what I believe,” Barry said. “I even remember the name.” That person was Joe Shapiro, Barry said.
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“I don’t watch much television at all,” Barry said she responded.
“What do you do?” the president asked.
“I read,” Barry replied.
“What do you read?” the president said.
“Books,” Barry said.
The president was incredulous. “You don’t watch Fox?”https://t.co/vKsbM4PNpP
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