Van Jones, host of CNN’s Crossfire and former Obama White House adviser on green jobs, appeared on ABC News This Week’s panel on Sunday to discuss the veto of Arizona’s religious ‘right to discriminate’ against gays bill.
Jones applauded the bill’s defeat which would have allowed individuals or businesses to refuse services to gay people on the basis of their religious beliefs.
“The one great achievement in the last century, we took out of American lexicon six words: We don’t serve your kind here,” Jones said. “Those ‘No Blacks Allowed’ signs came down, we don’t want to see ‘No Gays Allowed’ signs in this country.”
National Review editor, Rich Lowry, defended the bill, saying that it has nothing to do with gay rights, and said the law was needed to protect bakers, florists and photographers from being “punished” for denying gay couples services.
“First of all, if you own a coffee shop and you refuse to serve a gay person, one, you’re an idiot, two, you’re not going to have a defense under this law, because serving someone coffee is not a burden on your religion,” Lowry said. “The cases we’re talking about that are relevant here is bakers, florists, photographers, evangelical Christians or Catholics, who say, ‘I don’t have any problem with gay people, but I don’t want to participate in a gay wedding, because I have conscientious objections to it.’ And there have been cases where people have been punished, Van, for that. Reported to the authorities for sanctions or fines. That is wrong. And that is what is trying to be addressed here.”
Jones fired back:
Watch the panel discussion below: